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    1996 E90 60 degree V4. Starboard #1 cylinder warmer than Port 2&4- Starboard # 3 overheating over 3Krpm. I appears that cooling enters the heads at the tops of the banks, where thermos are, and exits at the bottoms. I found a small piece of broken shell blocking the pee indicator.So if I have a restriction at the bottom of the head, the upper cylinder heats the incoming water before it gets to the lower. Before taking any action, I shot the cylinder heads at the plugs with an IR thermometer. At idle #2 160, #4 162, #1 165, #3 168. At engagement of S.L.O.W. I shut down and immediately measured #2 168, #4 168, #1 178, #3 192. After sitting 1 minute #3 jumped to 212. Start up & idle and all temps drop to idle temps. I replaced the impeller which had taken a set. I replaced the thermostats. Now idle temps are 130 for cyl 2,4,1 & 150 for cyl #3. So I pull the heads looking for leaking head gaskets & obstructions. Found 1 broken O-ring on each side, but not #3. Found a wee bit of crusty "sand" at the bottom of the 1&3 bank. Blew compressed air- no resistance. Re***emble, run and still engaging SLOW after 1 minute at 3700rpm. Check IR temp & #3 still overheating. Since water takes the path of least resistance, can I remove thermostat on 2&4 and plug the thermo hole-replace the cap, remove the thermostat on 1&3-replace the cap, hook up a hose to the pee indicator fitting(made for this) and use street water pressure to flush out the bottom of the head and return p***age? Can I pour CLR or diluted muriatic acid into the head( being sure not to get it in the theromstat hole) to eat away/loosen sand/shell, then blast it with the street pressure? When I had the head off I could not find any obstruction in it, so it has to be downline from there, but with the head off I could not see any shell or sand in the block. Can I run it with the theromstat removed from bank 1&3? That might "force" water to the 1`&3 side. With the hose hooked up and thermostat out there is good flow out of the thermostat gasket. With everything installed , pee indicator removed, there is great flow too, but no way to tell which side is releasing the water to the indicator female hose fitting.
    I forgot to mention that when I changed the impeller, I found the intake screen below it was falling apart. I replaced it. I presume this is how a tiny piece of broken shell ended up in the pee tube indicator. That is why I poked, prodded, scraped, vacuumed & blew compressed air into the p***ages when I had the heads off.
    Today I plugged the 1&3 thermostat seal & vacuumed at the cap fitting -reverse of normal flow. I got no debris. Next I removed the plug and left the thermostat out, and installed the cap. I ran the hose to the indicator fitting and ran water at 80psi for 10 minutes. I reinstalled the thermostat & fired up the motor. After 10 minutes of idle, temps were low (105)& equal at 1&3, 120 at 2&4. I thought the flushing was responsible for the equal & lower temps of 1&3. I idled 10 more minutes to the river and ran at 3Krpm for less than 2 minutes when SLOW engaged. I shut down and measured #3 at 186, #1 at 172 (no longer equal). I removed the thermostat from 1&3 and ran at 3200rpm for about 3 minutes when SLOW engaged. I checked temps at 1&3 (both 162) & 2(186), and 4(162). Apparently releasing more flow to 1&3 means less flow to 2&4. So there is some balancing act to the design of the cooling system. What does not make sense is with 2 new thermo seals & 2 new thermos, the balancing act is out of whack. I suppose I should try vacuum/flushing on 2&4, even though they have never been a problem. And then try swapping thermostats to see if that makes any difference. And I will look to see if torquing the heads distorted the new thermo seals. I hand pressed them into the heads as tight as I could and they were not distorted at that time. What am I overlooking?
    Last edited by Stephen; 08-13-2015, 04:31 PM. Reason: forgot something

  • #2
    It might have helped more if you had flushed from thermostats backwards while lower unit was off, with compressed air, or good water pressure. It does sound like there is some blockage, but it may be in the midsection before getting to the powerhead?

    Good luck. Post back if you find anything.

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    • #3
      Good suggestion even though it means borrowing a trailer & R&R the heads, again. When I had the hose hooked up to the indicator fitting, and the 1&3 thermostat removed, I was a bit concerned about watering the electronics. Turned out that the water came out so strong, it even cleared the lower cowling. That's why I didn't think about the possibility of a problem before the thermostat. As Sherlock Holmes said- when you've eliminated everything else, what remains is the culprit. I need to try to eliminate pre thermostat restriction- Thank you for your reply!

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      • #4
        Think you can accomplish the same thing by removing thermostat covers and lower unit, not the heads. Yes, trailer needed to remove lower unit, but try compressed air at tell tale first, then if nothing blows out the water supply tube at water pump, try thermostats. Both tell tale and thermostats are supplied before the heads.

        Good luck.

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